Mentors can shape the paths we take. Gerry, a proud Monash Law alumna, showed us what it truly means to grow beyond the title of “lawyer.” Special thanks to Javed Pathan, Monash Law’s Student Engagement and Employability Coordinator, for connecting us with her. Today, Gerry is the Director of Legal, Risk and Compliance at Yarra Trams and a Fellow of the Australian Institute of Company Directors.
When I Grow Up: Leadership and Life with Our Mentor Gerry
Author: Eshi Ayezha
Interviewers: Ashleigh Cheuk, Jessica Woodyatt, Nelson Thomason, Nishara Fernando, Tiffany Lu & Eshi Ayezha
Chapter 1: Science Roots and Sales Lessons
Gerry was (at the time of the interview) the General Counsel for the corporate group at Orica, one of the world’s largest mining and services technology companies. Her scope spanned intellectual property, risk & compliance, and global procurement. With a background in IP commercialisation and tech, she helped lead Orica to a major Federal Court patent win earlier this July, upholding key patents and finding infringement against a competitor (Dyno Nobel v Orica).
A quick glance at her LinkedIn will tell you that she sees herself as ‘more than a lawyer.’ Within minutes of speaking to her, that line makes sense—and it’s even more striking when you realise this wasn’t the career she once imagined. Gerry originally studied science, majoring in pharmacology and physiology, intending to become a doctor. She later completed law part-time while working as a sales representative for a French pharmaceutical company. ‘Lawyers aren’t necessarily the smartest people in the room, but they are the ones who know how to work with different kinds of people,’ she says as she credits her initial sales experience, as well as her stints at Coles and a restaurant for her people-skills.
Chapter 2: The Lift-Test
Transporting back to 1995, Gerry recalls her early days as one of seven articled clerks at Dunhill Madden Butler (now part of Norton Rose Fulbright). It was the height of the Asian financial crisis, and insolvency matters flooded through the firm. For two years she worked on winding up companies and bankruptcies, which is important work but she admits soon became ‘the same old, same old’.
That’s when Gerry introduced us to her infamous ‘lift test’. If you walk into work, press the lift button, and if you’re not excited to be there, then that’s a sign something’s missing and it’s time for change.’ We chuckled at the simplicity of the test, but as Gerry explained, it’s a rule that has guided every step of her career. And it applies just as much to life as it does to law, when the spark isn’t there, look for opportunities elsewhere. True to her own advice, Gerry left insolvency behind and joined Hollingdale & Page’s commercial litigation team (now part of HSF), where she also dabbled in property disputes. But before long, the lift test failed again.
This time, Gerry decided to pivot within the firm. ‘Never be afraid to ask a question,’ she says. ‘If you don’t ask, you don’t get.’ With her science background and a growing interest in intellectual property, she approached one of the IP partners she had occasionally assisted on litigation matters. By sheer timing, two senior associates were leaving, and within weeks Gerry was invited to step in. She enrolled in a Master’s in Intellectual Property Law, and with that, formally joined the IP group.
The move brought her full circle, reconnecting her legal skills with her science roots, especially as the team was handling a wave of pharmaceutical litigation. What began as a leap of faith became the foundation for Gerry’s long-standing career in IP and technology law.
Chapter 3: Don’t Burn Bridges, Do Burn Doubts
Gerry’s journey is proof that the legal world is small and the IP world is even smaller. After moving from Hollingdale & Page to MinterEllison and eventually Griffith Hack, she found herself reunited with the very same partners she’d once worked alongside. ‘Relationships matter,’ she tells us, reflecting on how connections built early in her career kept reappearing years later.From the outside, private practice might look polished and glamorous but Gerry is frank about the less shiny parts: endless timesheets and the frustration of being called in too late, when clients had already let matters fester because they didn’t want to spend money upfront. ‘By the time you arrive, sometimes things just aren’t salvageable,’ she admits.
Over time, Gerry shifted from pure IP into commercial and corporate litigation. That move, however, wasn’t entirely by choice. After returning from maternity leave, a male partner told her she ‘couldn’t be a part-time litigator in IP.’ It was a remark steeped in bias, but in hindsight, it proved pivotal. ‘It was such a misogynistic view,’ Gerry says candidly. ‘But unknowingly, it pushed me to broaden my skills and that’s exactly what in-house roles demand. You have to be a generalist, spotting issues across the board.’
Those doubts and detours reshaped her path, equipping her not just to succeed as an in-house lawyer, but to grow into the kind of leader who embraces change and refuses to be boxed in.
An image displaying a lift’s buttons. What answer did you have when you did the ‘lift test’ today?
Chapter 4: First Dip into In-House
Gerry’s first step out of private practice came in an unexpected way, through a distant relative running a biotech start-up developing monoclonal antibodies for dogs and cats. What began as an in-house legal role quickly grew broader. Gerry found herself overseeing corporate operations, negotiating leases, building IT systems, even stepping in as company secretary alongside the CFO. The start-up soon flipped into an Irish public company and listed on NASDAQ, drawing numerous US-based investors. It was a whirlwind of board meetings, fundraising rounds, and international travel, an experience Gerry describes as both exhilarating and exhausting. When the company was eventually bought out by a major player, her lawyer’s instinct had already secured her protection: a contract that guaranteed a generous payout alongside the value of her shares.
After that chapter closed, Gerry dabbled in consulting before joining Orica. ‘Start-ups are agile and exciting,’ she says, ‘but you’re always looking for your next round of money and that can be draining.’ Orica, by contrast, offered the stability of a blue-chip ASX company, with the trade-off of slower-moving systems and stricter policies. Yet Gerry never lost her taste for creativity and agility. Even within a corporate giant, she carved out space to lead new initiatives, champion emerging issues like AI governance and data privacy, and pursue board roles that let her keep stretching beyond the lawyer’s box.
Chapter 5: Ancora Imparo
True to her stance of being more than just a lawyer, Gerry has sat on the Australian Biotechnology Association Board, joined the Swinburne University Council—where she pushed for the law school to stand out by producing technologically savvy lawyers—and served a decade on the Hawthorn Football Club Foundation Board. Each role gave her fresh perspectives and, just as importantly, reminded her that the best leaders never stop learning. Her study record is just as impressive. Gerry completed a Master’s in Intellectual Property Law, followed by the Applied Corporate Governance program through the Governance Institute of Australia, and later Swinburne’s Master of Corporate Governance. Looking back, she laughs that she has been living out Monash’s own motto, Ancora Imparo (‘I am still learning’) without even realising it.
These experiences have also shaped how she sees her own future. While she is about to begin a new chapter at Yarra Trams, she laughs at the idea of staying put for 15 years. Instead, she envisions a portfolio career, serving as a non-executive director, sitting on boards, and consulting across industries. What excites her most is preparing for the issues directors will face in the next decade: AI governance, cybersecurity, data privacy, and sustainability. ‘Being able to look ahead and know what’s going to happen is what’s going to get you ahead,’ she reflects, pointing to the gaps in AI regulation and the lessons from high-profile cybersecurity breaches. Even as technology transforms the profession by speeding up due diligence or reshaping discovery, Gerry is certain that lawyers will still be needed. ‘AI can do the grunt work,’ she says, ‘but people will always need lawyers who can think, advise, and connect.’
Chapter 6: Industry Changes and Leadership
The appeal of in-house life was becoming clear to us as Gerry spoke. She explained that traditionally, law students don’t move straight into in-house roles as companies usually prefer people who have completed structured graduate programs in firms. ‘In-house lawyers need to be quite independent,’ she says. ‘You also have to be prepared to really know the business inside out.’
Still, Gerry is quick to remind us that a law degree doesn’t lock you into practice. ‘It’s a fantastic background for any career,’ she reflects, pointing to friends who went into investment banking and even her own brother, now leading engagement at Monash University. At the same time, she’s seen classmates from the 1990s rise to become Supreme Court and County Court judges. The variety left my team glancing at each other, quietly wondering where our own degrees might take us years from now, especially with an industry that is slowly becoming more inclusive.
She’s noticed some encouraging changes. ‘There are definitely more women in leadership positions now,’ she says. Junior lawyers, too, are more likely to speak up than to tolerate the treatment she once endured. But the challenges haven’t disappeared. ‘Mental health is still a big issue,’ she warns, urging firms to prioritise wellbeing and for young lawyers to set boundaries. ‘Don’t just say yes all the time—you can say yes, but with conditions.’
When we asked about women feeling pressure to emulate masculine energy to lead, Gerry shook her head. ‘I deliberately stay away from that. It doesn’t feel authentic. The best leaders are kind leaders.’ To her, kindness doesn’t mean weakness. She recalls the painful responsibility of making staff redundant during COVID: ‘It was one of the worst days of my career, but I tried to do it honestly and with support—making sure people had what they needed around them.’
Chapter 7: A Message for Those Still Growing
For Gerry, leadership and ‘lawyer-ing’ comes down to honesty, boundaries, and clarity of purpose. She reminds us that you become a better lawyer (and a better person) when you have balance outside of work. ‘These are the things that make you you too,’ she says, pointing to the joy she finds in watching her kids’ games, walking her dogs, or cooking and baking. If law hadn’t worked out, she laughs, she probably would have been a chef.
When asked which chapter of her life she would recommend for students to read if her story were a book, Gerry points to the last decade, that is, her transition from private practice into general counsel and leadership roles. This is where she grew into the vision that there is always something beyond the law. And, fittingly for an article titled When I Grow Up, she leaves us with one final piece of advice: ‘Always think about the legacy you want to leave, because that’s what will guide you through your career.’
From left to right: Gerry at a construction site, an image echoing Gerry’s conviction to be a kind leader, Gerry’s LinkedIn post about her appointment as a Fellow of the Australian Institute of Company Directors. See more of her LinkedIn posts: here.